Episode 23

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10th Jun 2025

Communities of care - with Lorraine Krall McCrary

How can we ensure that people with intellectual disabilities participate fully in political life? What lessons can we learn from communities of care in which disabled and non-disabled people live together? And what should be the relationship between local communities of care and wider social and political structures?

These are some of the questions we explore in this episode, with Lorraine Krall McCrary. Lorraine is an Associate Professor of Political Science at Wabash College, a liberal arts school in Indiana, and a research associate at St Edmund's College, Cambridge. She has a doctorate in political theory from Georgetown University and previously taught at Washington University in St. Louis and at Villanova University. Lorraine's search brings together disability studies and feminist care ethics, and she also writes about topics in politics and literature, as well as the relationship between the family and politics. Lorraine is currently in the final stages of writing a book based on her most recent research, with the working title Care Communities: Politics in a Different Voice.

We discuss the following topics in this episode:

Lorraine's work as a political theorist and the roots of her interest in disability issues (02:35)

Hannah Arendt's theory of 'natality' (05:00)

Natality and the politics of birth at Auschwitz (07:36)

Bearing witness in dark times (10:45)

Lorraine's use of literary sources in her work on disability (12:40)

Jane Addams and the politics of human interconnectedness (16:05)

Lorraine's research with communities of care at L'Arche, Camphill, and Geel (21:13)

Towards a relational understanding of reason (28:58)

The idea of community in the political thought of Alexis de Tocqueville (33:00)

Jean Vanier and revelations of abuse at L'Arche (36:12)

Abuse as 'relational tyranny' (39:12)

The notion of subsidiarity in feminist care ethics and Catholic Social Teaching (44:08)

The role of the state in relation to communities of care (49:00)

Relational caring at a community level as cultivating a wider sense of social solidarity (52:57)

Future directions for Lorraine's research (56:20)

A selection of Lorraine's publications

'Geel's Family Care Tradition: Care, Communities, and the Social Inclusion of Persons with Disability' (2017)

'Re-Envisioning Independence and Community: Critiques from the Independent Living Movement and L'Arche' (2017)

'Natality and Disability: From Augustine to Arendt and Back' (2018)

'From Hull-House to Herland: Engaged and Extended Care in Jane Addams and Charlotte Perkins Gilman' (2018)

'The Politics of Community: Care and Agency in People with Intellectual Disabilities at L'Arche' (2020)

'"A Crooked Cross": Disability and Community in Flannery O'Connor' (2021)

'Bearing Witness to Natality: The Politics of Birth at Auschwitz' (2022)

'Disability and Subsidiarity: Toward Social and Political Inclusion' (with Parker Gamble, 2024)

Other publications discussed in the episode

Joan Tronto, Caring Democracy: Markets, Equality, and Justice

Maurice Hamington, Embodied Care: Jane Addams, Maurice Merleau-Ponty, and Feminist Care Ethics

Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America and Memoir on Pauperism

Paul Elie, The Life You Save May Be Your Own: an American Pilgrimage

Some of the thinkers, writers and activists mentioned in the episode

Hannah Arendt

Alexis de Tocqueville

Augustine

Thomas Hobbes

John Locke

Pope Leo XIII

John Stuart Mill

Jane Addams

Alice Hamilton

Flannery O'Connor

Joan Tronto

Daniel Engster

Maurice Hamington

Sarah Lucas

Rudolf Steiner

Jean Vanier

Other relevant links

L'Arche

Camphill

Geel

Catholic Social Teaching

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At some point in our lives, we will all have the experience of caring for another person - or of being cared for ourselves. But what exactly is ‘care’, and what do we mean by ‘good’ care? How do our beliefs, identities, and the social, cultural and political contexts in which we live, shape our experience of caring or being cared for? And how can ideas, theories, and the findings from research, help us to think more care-fully – and to care more thoughtfully?

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Martin Robb

Martin Robb is Professor of Care Ethics and Culture at The Open University (UK), where his research has focused on questions of identity, relationships, and care. He is the author of 'Men, Masculinities and the Care of Children: Images, Ideas and Identities' (2020) and the co-editor of 'Men and Loss: New Perspectives on Bereavement, Grief and Masculinity' (2025).